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19 November 2007 @ 12:04 pm
Tourists to Japan Don't Care about Culture  
According to the article (below), 35% of the tourists to Japan could give a rat's ass about the culture; they wanna shop!

Well no kidding. And while Japan has some cool shopping going on (can't deny it) here's my opinions about why:

EVERYTHING IS TOO FUGGING EXPENSIVE - Japan, yo, you gots to figure this out... by the time people have finished paying for their airfare and hotel accomodations, no one has any money to jump on the Bullet Trains that lead out of the greater Kantoh metropolitan area. Thus, tourists figure, fuckit, let's shop. PLUS, after the first day of shopping in Tokyo, they don't have any money left anyway! CLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE FONE.

And now a word for those of you coming to Japan to shop? Are you stupid?!?!? This is not Thailand, China, Taiwan, Korea, or any other part of Asia. This is Japan. You can't just drop in and buy anime and manga and go see the sights. It is NOT a vacation spot. Never has been, never will be. Sorry. CLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE FONE for you too.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/ed20071116a2.html


 
 
 
内出血死の蜂鳥: DaiMajincrystalplumage on November 19th, 2007 04:00 am (UTC)
That is not true
This is not why my friends and i go,at all .

We might be an exception,but thats a lot of people if you ask me .

1-I make it a POINT, to have enough money to shop comfortably, day to day .
As being there ,and seeing cool stuff ,i cannot get in the usa ,is just DULL .
If i see a little keitai strap bead kit,i want.,i buy.
If i see a nice scarf,i want ,i buy .
like that .
I plan it ,and if i do not have the money ,i forgo that day .

2-I make SURE i have my rail pass ,and i map out a plan each trip,to see a place, i have not ever been to before .
I have yet to do the north a decent go around .
But from Fukuoka,up to Nangano/Senddai/Niigata .
I have been ,explored ,gone more than once if i liked it .
Last year, i spent a week in Mie .
Yokkaichi,Tsu ,Toba ,Matsusaka.
The beef ,the race track ,xmas town ,the Mikimoto museum ,the aquariums,the Ninja museum .
But i look into it ,plan it make an effort.

3-The culture is half the allure,for me anyway .
Why go there ,if you have no appreciation for the culture ?
The history ,the gardens,the folk lore, architechture .
This year,i made it a point to find Abe No Seimeis shrine,burial place,and where he allegedly kept his yokai in waiting ...

4-I could care LESS about manga, anime ,and doujinshi shite.
But I love the jewelry ,and i have my fave brands.
But ! I make SURE ,i have enough money, for at least one new amazing piece ,each time i come over.
And if you look at the prices of Justin Davis, Arpege ,and Bloom,its not always cheap at ALL .
But i have one hell of an incredible Japanese jewelry collection .

I also always have my own keitai .
I must go to Osaka for at least a few days ,any time i come in ,because I love Osaka as much as Tokyo .
Friends of mine there, own HOUSES ,in Tokyo .
Thats how long they have lived there .
And i go and do aikido at the Hombu Dojo regularly ,if i have the time ,while i am in town .

So, we are not are the same ...



Edited at 2007-11-19 04:04 am (UTC)
Made in DNAmopedronin on November 19th, 2007 05:25 am (UTC)
Re: That is not true
if you have your own cell phone you are not a tourist dearest. ;)
内出血死の蜂鳥crystalplumage on November 19th, 2007 06:00 am (UTC)
Re: That is not true
My friend Aki keeps it for me.
Her address ,and i pay the bill .
And well,in reality ,i am not a tourist ,but i also do not live there ,100 % of the time .
so it depends upon your perspective.
But its been this way for me since i first went back in 2000.
I had not been there since 91 ,before that ....
Mad Mod Rabbit Goddrfardook on November 19th, 2007 05:10 am (UTC)
I wonder the same thing about people who consider NYC a shopping destination if they live outside of the tri-state area. Who the hell would fly to NYC just to go shopping when for the average middle class consumer you're looking at exactly the same products in pretty much the same stores. Banana Republic might be in the shadow of the empire state building but I assure you we don't have any special products only available in the city.

Then there is the high end market. Yes, there are boutiques, galleries, design stores, and other very high end shops that no, you can't find in Iowa. If you're in the market for a late De Kooning, you have to come out to the Gagosian Gallery. Saks Fifth Ave does have things you will only also find in LA, maybe Chicago, probably Paris, and yes, Tokyo. If you want a designer handbag from someone who's just making a name for themselves so you can show up all your bitchy suburban housefrau friends, you have to go to the east village.

I suspect people who do fly to Japan just might be in that category as well. The kind of people who do get a new wardrobe every season, want to look trendy, and have the money to spend. They're probably not going to blink at the price of a ticket and they don't couldn't give a shit about your little temple things unless they can buy a private tea ceremony or something.

I'm also guessing I'll be seeing a lot more of them here than you will there. The dollar is so weak if you're packing euros even walking into a boutique has to feel like going out to a sample sale.

Made in DNAmopedronin on November 19th, 2007 05:26 am (UTC)
i concur.

hey! i'm from iowa!
*mini min*not_forever on November 20th, 2007 12:09 pm (UTC)
Korea is definately not a cheap city either to live/shop. Especially now with the stronger Won rate, it's not cheap as it used to be. I'm always suprised to see how foreign tourist comes to Korea with the misconception that it's going to be cheaper to shop here. Well, there are some cheap stuff you can buy but those are mostly from China. I think US has better bargain durings sales period then here.

Korean consumers are strange and they prefer expensive=good so most imported products/brands end up becoming ridiculously expensive compared to other parts of Asia including Japan.

However, I must say that transportation and entrance to museums and stuff is affordable at a lower price then Japan or NYC.

I guess it also depends on where you come from. If you are shopping with Euro or Pound, it could feel cheaper. But not anymore with Dollars and Yen.
Made in DNAmopedronin on November 21st, 2007 10:47 pm (UTC)
Good to hear that in a sense that people need to have their perspectives rearranged. Thanks. I'll cross Korea off.
Made in DNAmopedronin on November 21st, 2007 10:48 pm (UTC)
Oh, how is it for just touring around? I wouldn't go somewhere to shop personally, but to visit a country, I would go anywhere as long as I thought it would be fair priced.
JEREM MORROWjerem_morrow on December 7th, 2007 09:45 pm (UTC)
Any chance ye have a link to that thing I illustrated for ye? That was back before tags were available, so I've no idea where in my journal to dig for it.
Made in DNAmopedronin on December 8th, 2007 12:24 am (UTC)
would you like the PDF file? =)
JEREM MORROWjerem_morrow on December 8th, 2007 12:31 am (UTC)
That'll do! Ha. Lost my copy when I switched comps. Danke, mate.
Made in DNAmopedronin on December 8th, 2007 12:40 am (UTC)
address?
JEREM MORROWjerem_morrow on December 8th, 2007 12:45 am (UTC)
Shit, sorry. Kutuluzombie@yahoo
Made in DNAmopedronin on December 8th, 2007 12:46 am (UTC)
ah, i have that address. wasnt sure if it was still good. sent in five... four... three...